@bhouin1086 Even with the skin I don’t think you will be much beyond 75%, which is no problem, you don’t need to be. As for the Encapsulated Citric Acid if I were you I would still use it. I shouldn’t even have brought it up but I did a lot of experimenting with low fat (all breast) chicken sausage so that is where I was coming from but you wont have that problem so you should be good!
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RE: Chicken snack sticks
RE: How much salt with dry cure?
@ed_orum As far as I am aware there is no way to make a lower salt dry cured sausage, it plays too important a role in the initial stages. That being said I am going to talk to someone next week and I will see if they have any ideas on how, or if this would be possible!
Just spitballing here but dipping it in an antimicrobial might help and make sure your meat is clean and your processing area is pristine.
Cured Sausage Advanced Classes & Seasoning and Additives
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Find out what's going on at Walton's and Meatgistics this week. We will have a loose schedule for soon to be released videos, what we are working on long-term and maybe a few quick tips and tricks that are on our mind!
What Videos are being released soon?
Meat Processing Equipment 203: Meat Mixers - We go over how to breakdown, clean and reassemble the Weston #20 and #44 lb meat mixers as well as how the paddle style mixer helps you achieve protein extraction.
Seasoning & Additives 202: High Temp Cheese - A product review of High Temp Cheese as well as some information on when to use what flavor of cheese. In this video, we show the difference in using regular or high temp cheese in your sausage.
What Projects are we looking ahead at?
Seasoning & Additives The Science of Cure - Curing of meat has been around for 1,000s of years but it is only in the last hundred or so that we started to really understand it. We will go over what the functions of sure cure are, how they perform those functions and what the dangers and misconceptions of cured meat are.
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Meatgistics continues to grow in membership and reach, which is great but we also have been pretty relaxed with guidelines and rules on the site. We don’t want to restrict people too much but we will be coming up with a list of Best Practices on Meatgistics. Two important ones will be, no links to external sites (specifically those of our competitors) and treating everyone with respect. I am sure you can understand why we don’t want people linking to external sites and if we find it we will just the link and possibly the post. The second one has not been an issue for us yet, but as we grow we know has the potential to cause problems. A full list of these best practices will be posted at the bottom of the site for everyone to review once they have been completed.
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RE: Casing Question
@scottwaltner Your meat block and smoking schedule sound fine so it doesn’t appear to be that. You say you water bathed them, was it ice water? Also what @RickHeb said is true, they need to sit out at room temp for an hour after the ice bath and then sit in the cooler overnight befire vacuum packing them.
Last thing, were your fibrous casings pre-stuck? If they werent this very well could happen?
RE: Chicken snack sticks
@Bhouin1086 You will have a lot better results using thighs than breast as the fat content will be a lot higher. I would also recommend that you not using bacon but instead get some pork fat, you can use bacon but I have always had better results with actual pork fat. If you do pork fat then I would use about 22 lb thighs to 3 lb of pure fat, if you stick with your current plan then your fat will be really close to 75/25 which is perfectly fine.
Since you are using ECA you cannot use Cold Phosphate (since one lowers and one raises the pH) which is what I always do when using chicken, it shouldn’t be too much of a concern though since you are going to be using enough pork to make up for the leanness of chicken.
Super bind is the right choice for a binder.
All in all I think you will be good, the only thing I would change is the bacon for pork fat but you shouldnt really have any problems if you stick with bacon!
RE: Blue ribbon bacon
@bubba_mcnabb Yikes, it was even in this post, I am losing my mind! Yes, you absolutely can. As long as you aren’t adding salt or cure you can pretty much feel free to add ingredients to bacon cures, as long as you aren’t selling it commercially. The last time I did Bacon I rubbed 5 pepper blend all over the outside and it was delicious!