Additives



  • This may sound dumb, but I just made a 10 lb. batch of snack sticks and went to your additives conversion chart for the carrot binder. It says 1 1/2 cups by volume for every 5 lbs. There is only 2 cups in the bag and by your chart it says I need 3 cups for 10 lbs. On the site where it is sold it says 12oz. for every 100 lbs of meat. going by that I needed roughly 1 1/4 oz of binder for 10 lbs. That surely wouldn’t be 3 cups by volume. Help me out here. I ended up using just under a cup of binder figuring 12 oz. will do 100lbs. Are my snack sticks going to be ok? They are on their final leg at 175 as I am writing this.


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    @hinoon

    It’s 4 ounces per 25 lbs of meat! I’m not sure about the chart but a cup and half for 5 lbs sounds like a lot. The most precise way to measure is with a digital or triple beam scale. At the rate suggested that comes out to approx 4.5 grams per lb of meat. I have no idea how that will effect your outcome but they certainly won’t lose any moisture.



  • hinoon: don’t feel like you are alone. Working with Walton’s Excaliber seasonings and their packaged cures and additives can be a real math challenge. Also, the “Conversion Chart” that they have on the Walton’s site, in my experience, is a mess. It should be set up as an Excel sheet or a Word table, then downloadable as a PDF. Instead, each time I’ve tried to download or print it, it comes out f’d up.

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  • Walton's Employee

    @hinoon I will recheck the chart and see why it is showing that becuase if there really is only 2 cups than 1.5 cups would be way too high. For additives though I absolutely recommend that you use a scale that is accurate at low weights.



  • When using carrot fiber do I add more water than what the seasoning instructions say. The seasoning say to add 6 cups of water for 25 lbsof meat. With the fiber do I add another 2 qts of water


  • Walton's Employee

    @kzwisconsin I certainly would not double it. It is about 4 oz per 25 lb of meat, if you are going to use the 2 qts then dont add any extra water at all. If you were planning on using 1 qt then maybe up that to 1.5-2 but you dont need any more water than that.



  • @jonathon thanks for the info I used what was recommend on the seasoning package. With the carrot fiber it seemed dry so I add a little more and it mixed better.


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  • @mcherbies Yeah, 2 quarts of water per 10 lb is going to present a few problems for you for sure. We would recommend 1 qt per 25 lb batch. I’ve done as much as 2 quarts per 25 lb batch and even that was pretty soupy. Now, it DID stuff like a dream, hardly had to turn the crank but it gave me an odd texture…don’t remember if it did anything to the casing or not.

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    I will need to take a photo sometime.

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