Meat stuffer issues meat exploding out of canister
Anyone know why this is happening
Brand new stuffer first time using it today
Meat exploding out seal under pressure
Totally frustrated tossed 25# of meat total waste of time and money
D R Baron last edited by
check seal may be upside down, i had that problem once.
vjbutler last edited by
@chicovt We all face challenges when learning a new process. I think as mentioned above this is a seal orientation issues which most of us have done at some point. You can either fix the problem and re-try the stuffing operation or loose pack the seasoned meat and cook it as part of sauce or possibly even grill it. Never toss your creations, always look for a way to use them or give them to someone who is willing to try something different. In the worst case chickens can always use the protein boost, I have never made anything they won’t eat. Most importantly don’t give up and ask for help when you need it.
@d-r-baron seal was on from factory
Took it off cleaned and tried flipping the gasket
@vjbutler tried fixing the seal a few times
With same results wish I had chickens to feed it to
Any trouble shooting you know of on the seals
First thing I would check is to make sure the seal is seated correctly. If the seal is rolling up I would definitely recommend lubricating the cylinder with some food grade lubricant like a silicone spray.
Spray the gasket too.
This shouldn’t be happening but if you are stuffing something with cure in it and stuffing into a small casing it increases the pressure a lot. You can wrap the plate with plastic wrap and that will find the gaps.
Rusty last edited by
@chicovt Hey PapiChico , did you find a reason/solution ? I think under the meat in your pic is a vent screw that allows compressed air pockets to release without blowing a gasket . Mine was snug from the factory and l backed it off a bit until l could hear pressure releasing when l first start cranking…
@rusty yea I did loosen that and was still getting same result
@parksider I will try that next time I attempt thanks for the suggestion
Does temperature of the meat make a difference at all if it’s warmed up a bit do you think it would go through easier
Ironically enough it’s better to stuff the meat cold. you could always put a little bit more water in it to get it to flow a little bit better or just use bigger casing. If you’re using casings smaller than 19 mm you’re going to tear up your equipment. You could always grab some large 2” casing and hand stuff.
@parksider thanks for the tip
How does extra water effect final product
I am using the 19mm casing the ones I did before I gave up turned out nice
lamurscrappy last edited by
What size tube are you using? 19mm casings are extremly tough to stuff with a hand stuffer like that. I believe you have way too much pressure your trying to stuff. Add a little extra water and add a small amount of vegtable oil and it might work better!
@Chicovt I have the same thing happen here from time to time. Here are the most common reasons I have found that this happens. By far the #1 issue is letting meat set up too long before stuffing. A few weeks ago I was making some snack sticks to try cooking in sous vide cooker, I knew they wouldn’t be great so I decided to experiment with a few different things and one of them was set up time. This is the time from after I have added everything and mixed it until I stuff it. When I let it set up more than 4 hours there was a noticeable difference in how hard it was to stuff, when I was cranking it was a lot harder and it would do the same thing. I swapped out to another gasket and it continued to happen. I took the entire canister and put it in the freezer for 20 minutes, opened the air release valve more and this helped greatly.
Then I did some testing with stuffing at different temperatures to see how quickly you could stuff a few feet of snack stick casings, unsurprisingly the meat that was around 30 stuffed much faster and easier than 40. So how cold your meat is will have an effect on it.
It also could possibly be a worn out gasket, I always recommend people have an extra one as if this goes you are down until you get another one.
The Air Valve also can help with this, the more it is open the more air will pass through and might stuff slightly easier.
Water and fat content of your meat is also important, obviously.
And the casing you are stuffing it into and tube you are using. The smaller it is the harder it is going to be to stuff and there will be more back pressure which makes the blowout more likely. It looks like you were using 19mm though so you could have been using the 12mm tube and that shouldnt be too bad under ideal circumstances.
@jonathon thanks jonathon
I pretty much started stuffing after I mixed
Had a good meat extraction and was cold
Using a 73/27 ratio
Can you confirm what way the gasket goes on
I had someone else mention possible some lubricant in canister and plastic wrap as well
Have you feed that
Yes was using 19mm and 12 tube
How will stuffing go if I let cure overnight instead of using the citric acid won’t that become stiff and hard to stuff?
Also do you find that the citric acid overpowers the spice blend did buffal blue cheese all I could taste was the range from the citric
@chicovt Buffalo blue cheese already has some vinegar taste to it so I dont think the citric acid would overpower it, though if memory serves it is not the strongest tasting seasoning so it might overpower it. I don’t love blue cheese so I have steered away from that one! I’d say you would be okay, maybe use 3 oz per 25 lb instead of 4 if you are concerned about it.
It is harder to stuff when held overnight no question about it, this is why you want to stuff your meat into casings and then hold it overnight if you are not using citric acid or another cure accelerator. If you are looking for a good cure accelerator that does not impart much of a taste sodium erythorbate is a good choice.
If you don’t lubricate the gasket it can be harder to stuff or the gasket might possibly start to roll up and create an open space for the meat to escape into and then above the cannister.
The lowest point on your gasket should be the outside ring when it is laid flat on a table. If you look at it from the top down and run your fingers around the outside of the gasket there should not be anywhere for your finger to go, no crease just the gasket touching the ground. If you feel a crease or a gap at the bottom then this is upside down. Sorry, there just isn’t a great way to explain this, I hope that helped!
The rest of your process sounds good, lean to fat is nice, sounds like it was cold and good protein extraction, make sure your air valve is mocing freely.
I didn’t see where you said how much water you added? I’ve done 2 qts before when stuffing small snack sticks, it makes it almost soupy but it stuffs like a dream and the water cooks off during the smoking process. It will take long to cook though, know that going in! Hope that helped!
AndyMan last edited by
check seal may be upside down, i had that problem once.
rodneycaudill last edited by
mine did the exact same thing today, very frustrating
@AndyMan How is your gasket orientated? It is counterintuitive how they should be inserted but it should stop it from coming up over the side. The first picture below shows it orientated correctly with the gap facing down(towards meat). The second is incorrectly installed with the gap at the top(towards stuffer gear box).
leafthebeef last edited by
@Jonathon thank you very much for the pictures. I have been wondering myself which was the correct way.
Matz last edited by
@Chicovt You must be careful when the gasket enters the canister, it will always try to push a part (lip) of the gasket to the top. I bring the plunger down until the gasket just touches the canister. I then check all the way around to see if the gasket is faceing down. When not I take my fingernail and go aruond the canister pushing the gasket in position. it usualy is about a fith of the dia.
@Chicovt don’t feel like the lone ranger, it happened to me as well. Just flip the gasket over and you will be fine
blackbetty61 last edited by blackbetty61
I may be grasping at straws but is your stuffer a bigger one say #25 one or #15 one? We’ve made sticks with our 15 lb stuffer and meat always oozed around the gasket…there was just too much pressure when making sticks, then I bought a 11lb one with dual speed and it works sooo much better on snack sticks.
Just my experience…good luck
akdave last edited by
@blackbetty61 your problem can be several things, bad gasket on stuffer, sausage mix too dry, we had problems with this one time, added a little more water to the mix and it worked wonderful, and stuffing very small snack sticks causes extra pressure on the stuffer.
@Jonathon So do you have a good catfish breading recipe?
@Parksider what did you use for your shell of your cooler? Did you use a cooler insert or just build an insulated shack.
@akdave Not sure what your smoker set up is but the best way I have found to increase the humidity in a smoker is with Automotive Sponges. I detail that in this post https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/1077/cured-sausage-205-advanced-thermal-processing
Raising the relative humidity will absolutely decrease your cook times, and it prevents/combats the stall