Big Elk Down



  • Just put the hammer down in this big boy.

    My fav is Willies sticks from Excalibur. I like to add hi-temp pepper jack and sure gel. Smoke them with pecan wood till then hit 160 internal temp. Also Jalepeno summer sausage . I used a few 32mm collegen casings instead of fibrous and they turned up great as well.

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    @Jnar4 That is one nice Elk! Where did you take him down at?
    Pictures look great, and I’m sure the sausages taste even better!
    Thanks for sharing!!



  • @Austin Got him In Colorado. My first trip ever out West . As excited as I was for the trophy I immediately started thinking about all the meat I was bringing home to GA.


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  • M

    I’ll be mixing 25 lbs of venison/pork fat at about a 75/25 ratio tomorrow.
    I’ll mix 12.5 lbs. at a time in my 20 lb mixer. I have pre-measured the seasonings and cure into one bag for each 12.5 lbs. I also have the carrot fiber binder measured for each 12.5 lbs of meat.
    Question 1: Would it work to mix the seasoning, cure, and carrot binder with the ice cold water, then pour into mixer for more even dispersion of ingredients?

    Question 2: On the subject of even dispersion of ingredients…how can only 60 seconds or less of mixing get the encapsulated citric acid evenly dispersed?

    Thanks!

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  • @kking It wouldn’t necessarily hurt anything, the only real danger you would run into is getting some case hardening. That is where the outside cooks too quickly and will not pass heat into the center. So you get an overcooked outside and an undercooked inside. If you stick to your previous smoke schedule and get good protein extraction when mixing (should be sticky and stretch if you grab a handful) then you should be good!

    If you get protein extraction my recommendation is low and slow!

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  • K

    @jonathon will it hurt anything to cook them at a higher temp to get them done quicker or should I stay low and slow?

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  • H

    @jonathon Sounds great. Thank you!

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  • @kking Gotcha! Okay, that changes things a little, if you added sure cure then the only other difference is the grinding and mixing. All of that is contained in the article I posted in my previous one, so if you ground and mixed as I did in that video that . I’m glad people are starting to try adding cure to traditionally fresh products, it’s a great way to experience new flavors!

    Since there was nothing bad growing in your meat (since you used sure cure) then I think the most likely thing would be either be some fat rendering out and essentially basting the casing in fat(which would have happened if you did not get enough protein extraction), or it might just have been a less than perfect batch of casings. They are natural casings and even though they are processed there is going to be some variability. You certainly can use natural hog casings to smoke sausage, people do it often, I just prefer collagen because I find it so much easier to work with and I like the snap of it better.

    The major downside to collagen is that it will not accept a twist as natural casings will.

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  • K

    @jonathon thanks for the help. However I did add sure cure to it when I mixed it and stuffed it. Is the issue I’m using the wrong casing? Do the natural casing not hold up to that slow cooking process. I guess I called them brats because I used brat seasoning.

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