Meat Binder Comparison


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    Meat Hacks: Meat Binder Comparison

    Learn about the differences between Carrot Fiber, Sure Gel, Soy Protein Blend with Walton's and Meatgistics. Watch the video, read the guide, and then post your questions or comments below.

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    What are the differences between Carrot Fiber, Sure Gel and Soy Protein Blend?

    You’ve heard us talk a lot about Carrot Fiber recently and with good reason. Carrot fiber is a low cost binder that does a great job with moisture retention and binding water with protein and fats, at a very low cost. It also has the added advantage of containing no allergens! It has no extra ingredients it is simply isolated Carrot Product.

    Sure Gel is another good binder and has been our most popular binder for a long time. It does a very nice job with moisture retention and can increase your final yield by about 3 % depending on how much water you mix in with it. One of the main advantages of Sure Gel is that it is the only binder that we have in stock that can be used in an injection for whole muscle meats. It does contain milk though so that might cause an issue for some people if you need an allergen free product.

    Soy Protein Blend has been our low cost option for years, it is simple to use and a lot of people have become accustomed to using it. This has rather large particles in it and some people have an issue with the initial appearance, however when you mix it into your meat you won’t be able to notice the larger particle size. It does help to let the soy protein blend sit in the water for Lastly, it does contain the allergen soy.

    Sure gel and Soy Protein Blend both also work by increasing the protein ratio in your meat block to increase the amount of protein available during mixing for protein extraction and meat binding.

    We have a visual aid today to help you understand how each one of these works in basic moisture retention. We have enough of each additive weighed out to process just five pounds of meat and we are going to add 6.5 ounces of water to each and see what happens with them.

    The soy protein blend looks a little like the oatmeal you would have for breakfast, almost soup like. Like I said before, most of that will be gone when your process your meat and you won’t see the particles in there.

    The sure gel does a little bit better of a job but still we can see some water in there after thoroughly mixing the water with the sure gel.

    Lastly, we have Carrot Fiber. The Carrot Fiber completely holds all the water and if you could feel it you would be able to tell it is still holding the moisture but there is no extra water visible that does not get soaked up.

    Now extrapolate that to your meat processing, we are adding water to give us a moister product but also increase our final yield. By adding a binder as well, it helps retain that moisture and give the product a more pleasing texture. Each of these is going to help you produce a juicer product but once again it seems like carrot fiber does the best job of retaining moisture. We always like to try to bring you guys the best additives but when we can find something that is low cost and works as well if not better than other more expensive products, well we love that! We’d recommend you give Carrot Fiber a try on your next batch sausage, summer sausage or snack sticks, we certainly think it is worth it!

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  • @Robert-Tartaglia Generally vinegar was added to the water to help reduce the smell. In my opinion, if you are just stuffing them the casings don’t require them nowadays, if you are boiling them then I might and add some. Some people also say it makes them more tender but this is debatable.

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  • R

    A recipe that i have says to soak the hog casings in white vinegar and water. My question is, “what does the vinegar do for the casing?”

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    @parksider Thanks. I did all that. I stuffed them tight twisted the tops down tight and secured them with twist ties. I’m going out right now to try again. Thanks for the tips!

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    Learn about Making Bone Marrow Burgers with Walton's and Meatgistics. Watch the video, read the guide, and then post your questions or comments below.

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    The meatgistics User @Denny recently posted a question about how much bone marrow should be added to a burger per lb. Well, I had never done anything with bone marrow before so I decided to grab some and check out the process.

    I started out with a few beef marrow bones, you can pick these up at your local grocery store or butcher shop. The bones I bought were about 2 inches thick which made getting the marrow out a lot simpler than I thought it was going to be. I just pressed on one side with my thumbs and they came out the other end in one solid piece. After doing all the bones I had set aside for testing this I had 5.7 oz.

    Once I chopped them all up I wanted to find out how much a Tablespoon of this weighed so we could give advice in both volume and weight measurements, so 1 Tablespoon of this beef marrow weighed 8 grams so .28 of an oz.

    Now, Denny pointed out that a demo he saw said 3-4 Tablespoons per 1-2 lb of burger, we are going to go with 4 because I always tend to think more is better, so would be 1.1 oz per lb or .55 of an oz per lb. That’s a pretty big range so we are going to test it by using 4 tbsp or 1.1 oz for 1 lb of burger, then 1.5 lb of burger and then 2 lb of burgers.

    Since the purpose of this is to determine the ratio of Marrow to use we didn’t want any other taste to stand out so we aren’t using any patty mix with this, so just straight ground beef. We also are making burgers with no marrow as a control.

    So after we grilled all of the burgers the one we added the most bone marrow too was my favorite. The bone marrow adds a really interesting deep flavor but I was most surprised by how much it changed the texture of the burger. It stayed juicier and almost had a creaminess to it that would be hard to replicate with any other ingredient I can think of.

    I won’t be doing this every time I make a burger, buying the bones, prepping them and then mixing them in did not take too long but it was an extra step but if I had a bunch of friends over and really wanted to impress them with something then this is a really interesting way to make an over the top burger!

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  • P

    Sitting at the beach on vacation my mind has time to wander…when you’re done stuffing give them a good twist to compact the meat. I’ve also give up on string tying I use zip ties and yes I wash them most of the time. We have zip tie loops that we’ll zip tie to the casings, makes hanging so much easier then just reuse the loops. That should help with the shrinkage issue.

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  • P

    You may not have stuffed them enough. Sometimes it hard to stuff the larger casings and if it’s not tight the may cause the shrinking during the cooling process. Those cases are extremely durable don’t be afraid to stuff them.

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