Turkey Day is coming......
I always de-bone my turkey before cooking… Generally I lay it in a pan similar to a spatchcocked bird, but without bones…
This year I have decided to order some meat nets from Waltons, and make more of a “turkey roll” or solid loaf of turkey that can then be either cut thin on the slicer for lunch meat or thick for turkey steaks. I plan on smoking a couple of birds and baking (or possibly deep frying) a couple more.
I have a couple questions, who’s answers may vary depending on cooking method.
What type of netting should I use? I am assuming I should have a natural string netting that I could use universally and don’t have to worry about it melting. Would there be an advantage to using a different type of netting?
When I de-bone a turkey, I end up with (mostly) 1 or 2 large pieces of meat and a smaller amount of “tidbits” or trimmings that will be used… Would I want to add some Transglutaminase to the meat to get it to hold together better as a loaf?
If I make a turkey roll for slicing into lunch meat, would I want to grind the meat then emulsify similar to making hot dogs, using the Transglutaminase to bind the meat, then stuff in a large, collagen tube?
@raider2119 First, we have a couple of videos coming out shortly on different ways to cook an entire Turkey so look for those in the next few weeks.
For your first question I would say you could use either the #12 White Meat Netting it is safe to use up to 450° but if that is not large enough for your purposes you could also use the #16 or #20 which have larger diameters.
For your second question the answer is yes, transglutaminase will work, it acts like a meat glue and should keep everything together.
On your third question I have a question for you before I can answer, When you bone it out do you still have the breasts attached with the skin covering it? You might be able to tie it up with regular butchers string.
Thanks for the reply, I already have the #12 meat Netting in the cart for checkout… This will work just fine for smoking / roasting to make turkey steaks…
I also want to make turkey roll (like the thin sliced lunchmeat at the grocery store), I have never done this before… nor have I used the transglutaminase and am wondering if grinding the turkey then adding your carrot emulsifier and meat glue before stuffing it into a collagen casing will give me a sausage texture, or whether it will end up as the solid loaf I am looking for… I am hoping to do this both roasted and smoked…
When I bone a turkey, I start by making a cut down the center of the breast bone, separating the breast into 2 halves… If the turkey is < 12 lbs, generally I can remove it in one piece and joined by the skin of the back of the bird… If it is >12 lbs, it is too unwieldy to handle and I have to separate it into 2 pieces at the backbone… Either way I try to keep as much skin intact as possible…
I have tried using butchers string, even tried sewing the skin together but it does not hold together well… it ends up looking like a 3 year old committed surgery… and killed the bird!!!
@raider2119 Thanks for the information that helps! If you grind it even if you emulsify it you are going to end up with a Bologna type product at best so I would say do not grind it unless that is what you are looking for. Debone it like you normally would, then use your transglutaminase and wrap it as tight as possible, it might even be worth putting it in a netting like #12 and then coming back through and wrapping it with butcher’s twine to really pull things together. If you do this and you are still having some separation consider scoring the inside of your breast and the “tidbits” before apply the transglutaminase.
Whatever you end up doing try to really pack it in the casing tightly to give it the best chance to bind together like a deli meat.
Hopefully this helps and you don’t have to try to create any more “frankenturkeys” or emergency surgeries.
Let me know if you need anything else!
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I do this every year. Takes half the time to cook and it literally flies off the plate. There are rarely leftovers, but when there are, slices freeze great if vac sealed and make great, easy dinners.
I don’t use netting. I truss it up with butcher’s twine. I also make sure not to nick the skin or have any pieces that are separate. I always start at the breast of the bird. I get the carcass pretty clean, but what I don’t get off the bone goes into the stock pot. I don’t bone out the last two joints of the wing either. Those I just throw in the roasting pan and snack on them when they are done early. Here is a great video of the process link text. He has some great butchering videos.
I also brine all my birds and either use an herbed butter or full blown stuffing inside when I roll it up.
I have the a Himalayan Salt Slab, but really didn’t know how to prep before cooking or clean it, so I have only used it once.
Thanks for the education on how to use my salt block, great video.
I picked up brisket at the Kroger Chain grocery already for $1.99 a lb. on sale. Walmart has some very nice full brisket with the round for $3.94 a lb. I have checked several butcher shops and they normally stock packer 6 full briskets with the round on it to a box @ $4.99 to $5.99 per pound or most butcher shops would sell you a individual brisket. You did not have to buy a whole case.
It’s a vinegar, oil, and spice marinade, very popular in upstate NY. Usually chicken cubed in 1"ish pieces and marinaded for a few days, grilled on kabob skewers, and served on a sausage roll. We do halves of game birds, marinade in 2gallon zip locks then indirect grill. Keep some of the marinade to baste with since wild birds are very lean.
Meat Hacks: Cooking on a Himalayan Salt Slab
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Cooking on a Himalayan Salt Slab
Salt is a key ingredient in almost any meat recipe. It improves the general flavor of almost any meat and has many other benefits as well. What happens when instead of putting salt on your steak you put steak on your salt? Himalayan Salt Blocks Like this one from Cameron’s have been increasing in popularity as a cooking and grilling surface. The Camerons Himalayan Salt slab is 8" x 8" and is 1.5 inches thick.
It appears to offer a few advantages over traditional methods like cooking on grill grates or cast iron. Since it is a solid slab of natural Himalayan salt it will season your meat as you cook it, so you don’t need to add any rubs or seasonings to your steak, if you don’t want to. This can help cut down on your sodium intake as even though you are cooking on a salt slab and will get some salt into your food the transfer will be less than a fully seasoned steak. Himalayan Salt also has a stronger flavor than regular salt so you don’t need as much to get the same flavor. Aside from the flavor Himalayan salt also contains micro nutrients that are not present in regular table salt.
These Salt Slabs are very good at heat retention, once you get them up to heat they will maintain a nice even heat and are suitable for cooking at extreme temperatures. These Himalayan Salt Slabs have a melting point of over 1,400 degrees so they can be used for almost any application. The surface is not very porous and the salt helps dry out and kill bacteria so it is a very hygenic cooking surface.
To get this ready to cook on we need to heat it in stages. Camerons recommends to preheat this slowly, so we will do 15 minutes on low, 15 on medium and 15 on high. This will work well because I like to give my steaks 45 minutes to come to room temperature before cooking them.
We are cooking a ribeye today, so we want to get this salt block up to around 500°, we are going to check that with the Laser Infrared Thermometer but if you want to know when you Slab is properly pre heated you can sprinkle some water on it and it should immediately sizzle. I am going to cook the steak for 3-4 minutes a side, as I want to get this steak to around 130°. When using a Himalayan Salt Slab it is recommended that you use a metal spatula or tongs, no plastic.
You could also cook vegetables or seafood directly on this but steak was the first thing I wanted to try.
So we have a Medium Rare Ribeye with a beautiful crust on it, that is partly because the salt from the block helped draw out the moisture from the outside of the meat and it crisped up beautifully.
To clean this you will need to let it cool first, so turn off your grill and leave it in there for about an hour or until it is cool to the touch. Then wipe it down with a moist towel or sponge until all the food particles are gone. Do not use soap on this or place it directly under running water or soak it.
All in all the Camerons Himalayan Salt Grilling Slab is a great tool to use in your kitchen or grill for when you want to try something different or impress your dinner guests. It cooked a very tasty steak and was a lot easier to use than I initially thought it would be. As a bonus it can be used as a serving dish and it looks great when left out on a counter or on a shelf.Subscribe to WaltonsTV
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I often thought about both, grinding and making my own burgers from brisket and sou vide, now for sure I going for it and with the brisket burgers I will add the bone morrow, man that has to be so good!
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