How to mix seasoning
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I am a newbie to making my own smoked cured link sausage. I just got my seasoning packets in the mail today from Walton’s . I was hoping there would be some specific instructions included with packets like you see on other seasoning such as ‘back country’.
My concern is on how to mix the cure and spices into the meat. I am comfortable with figuring out the correct amount of spices and cure per/lb. but I am confused on where the water comes in?
To make things simple I will tell you what I have. I have 1 pack of (1.4375 lb. pack of Roasted Garlic Smoked Sausage) and 1 pack of ( 1 oz. sure cure) which together should be enough for 25 lb of meat. I will be mixing 12.5 lb of venison and 12.5 lb of pork butt. My plan is to grind the venison and pork together and then in a meat mixer combine my spices and mix well. But no where can I find the best method for mixing it together and where the water comes in? Do I mix the spices and cure together and then add to water before adding to meat in the meat mixer? More specifically how much water for this ratio?
Do I add the spices cure and water together and then add to ground meat? Any suggestions are welcome.
@mike112678 Great question! The best time to add the water is when you are mixing the seasoning with the meat. I like to get all of the meat ground and in the mixer and then add the seasoning, cure and water to the mixer. For a 25 lb batch we would recommend 2 pints of water. Then mix everything until all the seasoning and cure is mixed in and you have good protein extraction. There is no need to mix the cure, seasoning and water together before adding them to the mixer.
This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wStH-RtQUY8 might be helpful as it shows what protein extraction will look like.
Let us know if you have any other questions and good luck!
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Thanks Jonathon. That’s exactly what I was looking for!
@parksider Thanks for the follow up!! I was really watching the internal temperature when they were in the rolling (HOT) water and making sure to pull them right at the 165. And then right into the ice water bath.
You guys got a great job! Im pretty passionate about this kinda stuff. I enjoy it a lot and love doing R and D stuff! Keep up the fun work!
@Jonathon Yes Jonathon-it’s in your head
@mikeihuntr My only advice is to keep the water around 170F, not a rolling boil. If the casing are too tight they WILL explode then you have a really big pot of bad soup! A nice simmer is the way to go, take them out 155-160 and into a water bath. Here is a pic, we just use the turkey fryer with the basket. It makes it really easy to remove from the water and rinse. I will also recommend keeping a temp probe right in the meat you can see the wire going into the water. Good luck!!
This was a big topic of conversation because we do freeze/thaw/process/refreeze venison and pork, never an issue. As a former restaurateur and certified food handler here is what Dept of Agriculture has to say. I’ll defer to the experts:
Author: Alice Henneman, MS, RDN
The U. S. Dept. of Agriculture (USDA) advises:
Once food is thawed in the refrigerator, it is safe to refreeze it without cooking, although there may be a loss of quality due to the moisture lost through thawing. After cooking raw foods which were previously frozen, it is safe to freeze the cooked foods. If previously cooked foods are thawed in the refrigerator, you may refreeze the unused portion. Freeze leftovers within 3-4 days. Do not refreeze any foods left outside the refrigerator longer than 2 hours; 1 hour in temperatures above 90 °F.
If you purchase previously frozen meat, poultry or fish at a retail store, you can refreeze if it has been handled properly, according to USDA.
DO NOT thaw meat at room temperature, such as on the kitchen counter.
Safety will depend on whether the raw product was handled properly before it was frozen, refrozen shortly after it was thawed, cooked to a safe temperature when it is eaten and handled safely if there are any leftovers.
What temperature should I pull my cured and smoked bacon out of my smokehouse?
@jonathon it is printed on the Box. I’m looking for a bag that has a evoh barrier. Does Waltons carry a four or five mm evoh High barrier bag?