Cure and smoke Pork Loin - Like Ham
njwhite2 last edited by
I am thinking that it would work to use ham curing products to cure a boneless pork loin and then smoke it low and slow. In my vision this would yeild a boneless, slice-able product with ham like flavor and texture. Have I inhaled too much hickory smoke?
It works great I smoke it till 155 degrees internal. Rub with black pepper adds a nice flavor, and you have Canadian Bacon. PS. trim the fat off of it before curing and smoking.
Kenjamin last edited by
I have made several pork loins as Canadian bacon, and they turned out well. Before placing them into the cure, trim off as much fat and silver skin as you can. A bit here and there is not an issue. After removing from the cure, pat it dry and you have Canadian Bacon. I prefer mine smoked just a bit. I set my smoke to 170F, and put the pork loin for about 90 min. I don’t care for mine to be heavily smoke like a ham. I cut it into 4 pieces. I do the cooking when it goes into what ever recipe I am making.
I made one for my son’s girlfriend and she is very stingy about sharing it.
Papa Gale last edited by Papa Gale
Lots of good information we have cured and smoked pork loins for several years with good success. Our recipe calls to soak the pork loin in the brine for 4 days I left the loins in the brine for 5 days once it was a little salty. Be sure to rinse off the pork loins when you take them out of the brine pat dry put them back in the refrigerator on a jerkey rack for 12 hours roll them over a few times this form a coating on the out side of the meat to help keep the juices in don’t over cook they dry out easy. Good luck.
I’ve been making Canadian Bacon for a while… BUT… one of the smoke rings that I’m in has a lot of Canadians in it as well… They keep asking “What’s this Canadian Bacon you guys make down there in the states”?.. In other words… IT AIN’T CANADIAN !!!
They make something similar called “Peameal Bacon” doing the same cure, then coating the loin with ground up yellow peas… put it back to rest in the fridge for a day or so, then instead of smoking, they just roast it in the oven or slice it and cook it in a pan on the stovetop…
I did a 1/2 loin of peameal bacon with my last batch… I have been told not to waste my time making Canadian bacon any more… This stuff is DA BOMB!!!
@raider2119 I won’t lie, I had to google what in the world a yellow pea is! Were they dried when you put them on? I am intrigued and it sounds fairly simple to make which I like.
@jonathon yes, dried and split… come in a bag just like dried green peas, but a bit harder to find… Regular grocery stores (including Whole Foods) don’t seem to carry them, but we have an abundance of both Indian and Chinese grocery stores locally… every one of them has them!!! Be careful what you grab, I found there are numerous items that look like yellow peas and were labeled in either Indian or Chinese… Initially I grabbed a bag of what turned out to be yellow lentils… the guy at the checkout set me straight and pointed me to the right item…
Instructions were to “rough grind” them so I had some larger chunks left in there… you want to make sure everything is ground to less than about 1/8" or it will end up being too crunchy…
I used an EQ cure, and threw in some maple syrup and pickling spice… very basic… Then just coat with ground up yellow peas, let it rest for a day or so…Either slice and freeze or cook the entire roast… last time I cooked the entire roast, this time I’m doing some each way to see if there is any difference…
Baconator last edited by
Any of you have a good recipe that isn’t salty for making Canadian bacon ? I have one but always looking to try something new…
I was in Toronto and had an egg and pea meal ham breakfast sandwich. It was good don’t get me wrong but it was roasted not smoked. Guess I’m a traditional ham kinda guy. The pea meal was very similar to what pizza places put on the bottom of the pizza crust.
@parksider : For some reason it has become popular to substitute corn meal for the pea meal… That’s why it’s the same as what a pizzeria uses (cornmeal/flour mix) to keep raw pizza dough from sticking to the pizza piel…
I really don’t get why it’s considered acceptable to substitute cornmeal, the bacon loses the incredible flavor from the peameal…
@raider2119 I still havent had time to try this but I am absolutely going to be giving this a try in the next month or so. I’m just not sure I am going to be able to find the Yellow Pea, I think I have a local place that will have it but we will see!
@scottwaltner i too used to have that same problem until I made my mix about 30 percent fat added non fat powder milk for a binder and mixed till it gets good and sticky and then the rest cooking temp and water shower @ end.
@parksider I am using fibrous casings and soaking in warm water for alt least 30 minutes. I mixed the meat, 20 pounds for about 12 minutes. The casings were tight when I was stuffing them. I was processing at 125 for 1 hour, 140 for 1 hour, 155 for 2 hours and 170 until the internal was 165. I water bathed them, forgot to hang them over night, but just put them in the refrigerator. I didn’t take the internal temp after I water bathed them.
The outside of the sausage does not appear fatty and the flavor is great.
Ive been wrong many times before lol! But i dont feel like it would turn out super good unless you found a seasoning mix that would blend well with the bacon taste which might take some nasty sticks to figure it out. Possibly willies snack stick from waltons might be ok… if you do this please let us know how it turns out. Commercially seems like a bit of a bad thing, the cost of bacon/pork fat is huge. Profit margin would be horrid!
@scottwaltner i agree with parker on a few things. You always need to soak your fibrous summer sausage casings for sure! At least 30 minutes if you got time. Also you dont want the casings to stick too much to the meat either though. Fine line there. I think maybe you need to mix the meat longer for that protein extraction would be the main thing. Also you want to stuff those casings about as tight as you can with out exploding, but those casings are tough. What temperature is the summer sausage after cooling them down?
I want to make fresh not smoked nitrate free Hot Dogs. After stuffing I am hot bathing them to 160. These are all beef I must add. What can I use to keep the color so they don’t end up grey looking and have that nice pink color?
Very similar process. Try dividing the spice into 1/3’s. Rub 1/3 on each day for 3 days. Yes it’s very thin, doesn’t take much. Local hardware store had crocks on sale so i got 2. I rub, and rotate each day.
After day 3, rotate each day for 5 more days. If it’s cold out i leave on the floor in my garage, if not it goes in the fridge-great either way just depends on weather.
Hang one day-i never rinse. Cold smoke (100F) for 6 hours. rest overnight, cold smoke for 6 more hours. Rest overnight.
I like mine to be a deep cherry color, that’s how i determine when to stop smoking. If it’s not that rich cherry color, smoke it more! Then rest it for 3 days and slice. We slice it on a slicer so i get super thin slices. Uncle Cecil said slice it thin enough that you can read the paper through it!
One tip-Walton’s has the little drying pouch that’s in the store bought jerky, They are cheap and make it last forever in the fridge or freezer. I also vacuum seal to 98% with the chamber vac or it get too hard. Here is a pic of what I’m looking for. The fellas have named this George Washington Jerky. It was the only way i could explain it to them before i made it. Told them we were going VERY old school, and now they love it!