Buffalo wing blue cheese snack stick mix...
I am fairly new at the meat processing process, so I need some advice. I attempted to make the buffalo/blue cheese snack sticks this weekend…and they dont have ANY buffalo or blue cheese flavor.
I Cut the package content into 1/5 by weight, got good protein extraction, and used 70/30 beef mix for meat. I also shook up package to mix the seasoning before weighing it out. The product looks and tastes good, but no buffalo/blue cheese taste at all. Anyone else have this problem?
BTW…the Meatgistics videos and this forum is awesome! Keep up the great work Austin and Jon!
@tubby First off, welcome to the board! Buffalo Bleu Cheese should give you a pretty good buffalo flavor, the Bleu Cheese doesn’t really have too strong of a taste though. If you were expecting more from the Bleu Cheese that might be part of the problem but saying it didnt have any flavor leads me to believe something happened. So you used 70/30 beef and got good protein extraction, when you bite into them what is the consistency like? Does it seem more dry than a 70/30 should? Can you give me your smoke or cooking schedule?
The only other thing I can think of is that even though you shook up the bag you got more of one type of seasoning than another, this can happen and it’s even happened to me once. Not really much to be done if that is the issue, but give me your smoke shcedule and let me know if they seemed dry for a 70/30.
One other thing, did you use any other additives like Encapsulated Citric Acid or Carrot Fiber?
Thx for responding. I would not say they were dry, but were not real moist. I made a 5# batch, with a 70/30 beef. I did not use encapsulated citric acid or a binder. My cook schedule was as follows:
1 hour at 125
1 hour at 140
2 hours at 155
Finished at 175 until internal 160 internal temp.
I did go back and watch your video on protein extraction, and i dont think i got as good an extraction as I thought. Had some fat pockets in a portion of the sticks.
@tubby Protein extraction was my thought in a way. I was thinking that if you did not get enough then your sticks might have “fatted out” and when that happens it can dull the taste as there is not as much fat to act as a vehicle for the seasoning. The fat helps coat your mouth with the taste and helps it linger, that is part of the reason that fattier foods generally taste better.
Your smoke schedule was good so it’s not that. I would recommend adding a binder in the future, its a simple way to keep the fat and water bound into the meat and can give you a better overall product. Now, I dont think that was the cause of the lack of taste here, just a tip on something to try in the future.
On your next batch make sure you are getting proper protein extraction and maybe try using enough seasoning for say 6-7 lb of meat but only use 5 lb of meat. I dont always recommend that but I know alot of people do that too get a stronger tasting product from time to time.
Let me know on your next batch and we can work from there!
Thanks Jon! Will try a binder on next batch! I appreciate the quick response!
Cooked a batch of summmer in PK 100 casings are 1 7/8 by 12 cooked at 120 for one hour then 140 two hours then 180 tell internal of 152 but when I went to pull them the fat had liquefied any ideas
Tom T from Boise, ID
Oh… I ground the pork fat and the venison at the same time. 2 chunks of venison, 1 chunk of pork, back and forth…
Yes… sure cure and sure gel binder. The venison and pork fat were both still partially frozen when I ground them. First through the large course plate, then again through the small plate. (Not sure of sizes, but these are the plates i normally use for summer sausage). I probably should have put the meat back in the freezer before seasoning but i was pressed for time. I mixed by hand for 14 or 15 minutes. I also think I might have added to much water. The video said 2 quarts for wild game 2 pints for fatty pork. I put in 1 quart and about another cup. I mixed until it got tacky and then mixed some more. The meat seemed soupy to me but the video said that would be ok.
The shriveling occurred before I bumped the temp up. I was using a digital thermometer with a probe, when the temp stalled for a couple hours, I suspected the temp might be reading inaccurately so I opened the door to confirm with a dial thermometer. The digital was accurate but the sausage was already shriveling.
Another thing that bothered me was the casings… these had perforations for some reason. I e never used perforated casings before and seemed like I was losing a pot of moisture through them. Did I have the wrong casings? The other fibrous casings in the catalog said you were supposed to poke them anyway.