Buffalo wing blue cheese snack stick mix...
I am fairly new at the meat processing process, so I need some advice. I attempted to make the buffalo/blue cheese snack sticks this weekend…and they dont have ANY buffalo or blue cheese flavor.
I Cut the package content into 1/5 by weight, got good protein extraction, and used 70/30 beef mix for meat. I also shook up package to mix the seasoning before weighing it out. The product looks and tastes good, but no buffalo/blue cheese taste at all. Anyone else have this problem?
BTW…the Meatgistics videos and this forum is awesome! Keep up the great work Austin and Jon!
@tubby First off, welcome to the board! Buffalo Bleu Cheese should give you a pretty good buffalo flavor, the Bleu Cheese doesn’t really have too strong of a taste though. If you were expecting more from the Bleu Cheese that might be part of the problem but saying it didnt have any flavor leads me to believe something happened. So you used 70/30 beef and got good protein extraction, when you bite into them what is the consistency like? Does it seem more dry than a 70/30 should? Can you give me your smoke or cooking schedule?
The only other thing I can think of is that even though you shook up the bag you got more of one type of seasoning than another, this can happen and it’s even happened to me once. Not really much to be done if that is the issue, but give me your smoke shcedule and let me know if they seemed dry for a 70/30.
One other thing, did you use any other additives like Encapsulated Citric Acid or Carrot Fiber?
Thx for responding. I would not say they were dry, but were not real moist. I made a 5# batch, with a 70/30 beef. I did not use encapsulated citric acid or a binder. My cook schedule was as follows:
1 hour at 125
1 hour at 140
2 hours at 155
Finished at 175 until internal 160 internal temp.
I did go back and watch your video on protein extraction, and i dont think i got as good an extraction as I thought. Had some fat pockets in a portion of the sticks.
@tubby Protein extraction was my thought in a way. I was thinking that if you did not get enough then your sticks might have “fatted out” and when that happens it can dull the taste as there is not as much fat to act as a vehicle for the seasoning. The fat helps coat your mouth with the taste and helps it linger, that is part of the reason that fattier foods generally taste better.
Your smoke schedule was good so it’s not that. I would recommend adding a binder in the future, its a simple way to keep the fat and water bound into the meat and can give you a better overall product. Now, I dont think that was the cause of the lack of taste here, just a tip on something to try in the future.
On your next batch make sure you are getting proper protein extraction and maybe try using enough seasoning for say 6-7 lb of meat but only use 5 lb of meat. I dont always recommend that but I know alot of people do that too get a stronger tasting product from time to time.
Let me know on your next batch and we can work from there!
Thanks Jon! Will try a binder on next batch! I appreciate the quick response!
@jonathon Black Bull, the name makes it sound like it would be a winner. Yes, I have done the injecting as well. I forgot about that. I thought the overall flavor was a little better with the brine, then a pat down, & the dry rub to finish it off.
The Alabama trick. Well, more like the Dave trick, but definitely from Alabama. Occasionally I will add a can of Buffalo Rock Ginger Ale to my brine or injection liquid. Buffalo Rock, to my knowledge only available in Alabama. It is some real serious stuff No liquor though, but serious stuff. Just about like what Coke used to be. You either like this stuff o you don’t. We like it. We have let some folks try it & they definitely did not like it. I have never found an in between. I have never found a Ginger Ale quite like it in all my travels either. A few have been close, maybe, but not there. I few folks thought that some particular variety might be similar, but them having not tried both the Buffalo Rock & their brand, there is no comparison. How they got the name Buffalo Rock in Alabama. either I don’t remember or never learned. It seems to me that it might have been some sort of Texas thing, probably because I am thinking of Buffalo Gap, Texas. But, the fact of the matter is it apparently started over 150 years ago, but in Alabama. Good stuff!
Austin… Her sausage doesnt have the crust you speak of. Maybe the aluminum foil is what prevents that and also holds in the moisture. that keeps the consistency good.
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That makes sense. May also be why the switch does not lock in reverse. Acts more like a pulse switch. I avoided using it with mixer just to be safe. Didn’t want to chance wrecking it. I did grind 20# of venison in less than two minutes. Great piece of equipment! Don’t know why I waited so long to get one. Quiet, smooth and efficient. If you’re able to find out more, please share. Thanks Austin.
@gerygaub Absolutely, that is what I have done with the bellies in the past they always turn out fantastic! Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
So I can vacuum seal the belly with the vac sealer and after the 5 to 7 days remove it and smoke it?