Cold Smoking Bacon
Is it ok to cold smoke bacon injected or pickled with the Blue Ribbon Maple Bacon Cure? You actually recommend a different cure for pickling but dont really say why, is it just personal preference or does this cure not work for regular pickling?
@leppolite That cure is not a good option for pickling as it has sodium erythorbate already mixed in which is going to cause any cover pickle to gas out so quickly that it won’t have time to penetrate even something thin like Bacon.
For cold smoking you would normally need something with the appropriate levels of Nitrite and Nitrate and this cure only Nitrite. You might be able to use this but can you give me what your process is going to be? The more detail you can give me on what you plan to do the more detailed an answer I will be able to give you.
@jonathon This would have been my first actual cold smoke. The plan was to run with an Amazen tube and no heat for 8-10 hours until I had good color then freeze and slice. Temp here will be in the 40F range if I do it on Saturday as planned. I have hot/warm smoked bacon before but never cold smoked.
@leppolite Sorry for the delay we were talking to a few other people here and wanted to see if there was anything we could recommend for this and there just isnt a good way to cold smoke something with this type of cure. I would start cold smoking with something else, and perhaps not do the bacon at all. I have never done it and I just wouldn’t trust cold smoking anything without it having both Nitrites and Nitrates so that you get the immediate curing and slower longer cure.
For Bacon I would always thermal process with the below smoking schedule.
Stage 1 - 120° for an hour with no smoke
Stage 2 - 135° for an hour with smoke
Stage 3 - 150° for an hour with smoke
Stage 4 - 165° for an hour with smoke
Stage 5 - 180° with no smoke until internal temperature reaches 132°
@jonathon Thank you for the reply, I will grab some bacon flavor enhancer and roll with injecting and hot smoking a bunch and then try something more appropriate for a cold smoke later. Thanks again for taking the time to investigate and respond.
If you have a suggestion for a cure that would be appropriate for cold smoking I would be interested.
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I’ve cold smoked a bunch of cheese and store bought salami or summer sausages with the amaz-n-smoke tubes, works great. The cheeses really take on the smoke flavor great. If you have multiple grates to use just keep the area right above the tube free of cheese, the tube does produce some heat directly above it. I buy the bricks of whatever cheese you like and then split them lengthwise into 4 sections about an inch or so square, same with the sausage, pretty tasty.
I have both a 6 and 12 inch A-maze-n tubes, the guy that makes them is like 30 minutes away. Stopped and picked up the tubes and some flavored pellets last Friday but not had a chance to use them yet. Hopefully this weekend I will get some cheese smoked. I still need to do a batch of injected bacon this weekend too so I will be busy apparently.
Thanks for the help!
@denny I have a recipe for tongue with rice and gravy. Slice the tongue into thick slices about an inch to an inch and a half. Make small incisions in each piece and put a piece of garlic. Season with salt, red pepper and cayenne pepper. In a cast iron pot put a small amount of cooking oil. Brown the tongue on a medium heat stirring often. Occasionally add a little water. Just enough to stop it from sticking. After the meat is browned we’ll remove the tongue and add a couple of large onions. Brown them down will well and add tongue back. Cover the tongue with water and cover. And cook over a Med to high heat. Cook till tinder. You may have to add a few times. Once it’s tender cook it down till the gravy is thick. Serve gravy over white rice. This is how we Cajuns so it. Hope you enjoy.
@renaldo No you are right! For some reason I thought you were doing a 25 lb batch! For 7 lb the correct amount of carrot fiber would be 1.1 oz and for water don’t use more than 16 oz.
4 ounces of carrot fiber for 7 pounds of meat? Seems like too much carrot fiber for that amount of meat. But, I have been, and probably am wrong here.
@Denny There is a guy here who does Lingua occasionally but he is at the AAMP (Association of American Meat Processors) Convention right now. I sent him an email so hopefully he has some time to give me his recipe because it was very tender. If not now then he will be back Monday.
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