Hog Rings and Hog Ring Pliers
I currently have a couple sets of Dewalt hog ring pliers, they appear to be exactly the same as the auto load hog ring pliers you guys sell… The problem I am having is that the pliers do not scrunch the (1/2") hog ring down tight enough to seal either a casing or a meat bag…
Is it safe to assume that these are virtually the same pliers that Waltons sells? If not, do your auto load pliers close the rings tight enough to seal a meat bag? If they are the same, how do you close your hog rings enough to seal a bag? It appears to me that I would also need a pair of the manual pliers to finish tightening the rings once set in place with the “auto loads”.
It looks like the DeWalt hog ring pliers use an 11/16" hog ring, but the one’s we have are using a 1/2" hog ring. DeWalt states that it closes down to about 9/32". I just tested the ones we sell and they get down to about 7/32".
So I think the ones we have will barely clip a little tighter. The units seem very similar though.
We use them on meat bags, and they will clip tight enough on a meat bag.
I typically recommend that people use a Stainless Steel Poly Bag Sealer or a Bag Sealing Stapler though if you want an even tighter seal. Our Auto Load Hog Ring Pliers still should work on meat bags though.
Here’s one of our meat bags sealed with our auto load hog ring pliers:
Thanks Austin, the 1/16" difference in the 2 sets of pliers appears to be substantial… That being said, I am getting ready to order your “poly bag sealer”… That was the direction I was going to go initially, but had received the hog ring pliers as Christmas gifts from well meaning (and hungry) friends.
Just a suggestion, but if there were any way possible for you to add a “public viewing” option to the wish list on your website, I know I would pass links to it to friends for upcoming birthday and Christmas presents…
Do yourself a favor and toss the pliers. Swing by harbor freight and grab some zip ties. Works perfect! It’s all we use now.
As I. push the carriage forward the slices get bigger and bigger even if I push only the carriage.
Weekly Blog Post - Octopus and Squid, Vacuum Packing
Find out what's going on at Walton's and Meatgistics this week. We will have a loose schedule for soon to be released videos, what we are working on long-term and maybe a few quick tips and tricks that are on our mind!What Videos are being released soon?
Depending on what you see as soon we will have the almost complete first round of Meatgistics University Classes released. We have broken everything down into these categories; Meat Processing Equipment, Seasoning and Additives, Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage, Jerky, Sausage Casings, Deli Meats, Smoked Meats, Cured Whole Muscle Meats, and Specialty Sausages. Each of these topics will have multiple entry-level classes covering topics like the type of casing to use, equipment needed and a basic processing class where appropriate.What Projects are we looking ahead at?
We are going to be doing two new Will it BBQ’s, hopefully, this week where we try BBQ’ing Squid and Octopus! The squid was a suggestion by Bob Zambutto through Walton’s Inc Facebook account! I had been wanting to do both of these for a while and when I went to our local Asian Grocery Store (Tai Binh for anyone local to Wichita, KS) and they had lots of options for both, they have almost anything and I got a few more weird ideas while I was there! Anyway, I picked up some baby octopus and a full size one, some small squid and two large ones as well. I am excited and nervous to see how this goes if nothing else it should be fun to watch!What’s on our Mind?
Did you know that you shouldn’t vacuum pack Mushrooms or Garlic? I was reading a Vacmaster VP120 instruction manual the other day and I saw an interesting note that said not to vacuum pack Garlic or Mushrooms! I had no idea that you shouldn’t do this so I thought I would share that with meatgistics readers to let you know not to do it as well. Apparently, they both are prone to bacteria that will continue to grow in oxygen-free environments. I was hoping it was something more impressive than that but it is good information to have.New Products
22" X 24" Collagen Sheets This are typically used for larger whole muscle cuts of meat, like when you are making prosciutto, capocollo, or other dried hams. This is an item that we have had lots of requests for over the years so we were happy to finally find a reliable and reputable source for it.
Thanks for the response!
I think a video on processed celery would be incredible. The only place I have been able to find celery powder as a cure was from “The Sausage Maker”, they have a Facebook page. It was expensive, designed only for sausages, and wasn’t packaged well.
As for the tackiness, good idea with the cornstarch! There are a bunch of big brands with zero additives that were able to achieve the soft texture with no tackiness, so I’m thinking it has to be in the processing. I read an article where someone at KRAVE mentioned a couple details about how they process their jerky. He said they first inject the meat, then cook the whole pieces, then slice, then marinate, then dry. I have messed around with the idea behind this process a lot. Injecting with brine, sous-viding at a variety of temperatures and times, slicing, marinating, and drying. Decent results, but to be honest the high sugar method you introduced to me has seemed to have better results.
Anyway, I will keep trying to figure this out and will definitely keep you guys posted if I make any headway. In the meantime, if there is anything else you think might be worth testing, please let me know! It would be great to try and perfect this process together.
@bob-s-meatgistics I moved one of my first pork butts into the oven and my whole house smelled like smoke. My wife did not stop complaining for a week until the smell was gone from both the house and the oven. I finish all my cooks outside. If you wrap it to speed up the cook you may want to unwrap it for the last hour to put the bark back on it.
@jonathon I am definitely going to purchase and follow the steps you’ve post, thank you sir! Additionally, if anyone has recipes, please share. I’ll try them all and post what my family thought of each. Thank you all, this is a very cool and educational blog, glad I found it wish it was years ago! Thanks again.