I have been grinding my own burger like my Dad did on the dairy farm I grew up on. I have found that brisket is a amazing flavor for burger. I have been reading about adding bone morrow . Is said to give burger a unique flavor. My question is how much to add to ta 15 lb. to 25. batch ?
@Denny I’ve never added bone marrow to a burger. I’m kicking myself right now because I just saw some beef bones at the store and was going to pick them up and try a few things with them and then I got distracted and never went back to the meat section! Give me a couple of days and I will try to get a good answer for you though I think it is going to be a rather small amount.
Do you roast the bones first? Split in half lengthwise? I have about 50# of beef bones from a cow we butchered just sitting in the freezer waiting for me to get inspired…this just might do it!!!
When you grind your own brisket how much trimming do you have to do?
I usually try to a full brisket 16-20lb. brisket I usually trim off about 2 lbs. of the fat cap off the point. I had a heaping cereal bowl and then weighed it to know how much I trimmed. The point is well marbled . when you split open the brisket it still has a great fat to meat ratio. I only grind once as my Pattie maker fits on the discharge of the grinder. I usually yield 50-53 I/3 pound patties. When you look at the price of brisket this is premium burger. After you have brisket burger you ask why would you smoke a brisket. Although both flavors are excellent.
I missed your question about the bones. You can split legbones with a band saw and scoop out the marrow with a spoon. Most of the articles I have read usually take bones that are round 2 -3 inches and 1-1 1/2 thick and they just push the morrow out with there finger or spoon. Then chop up the morrow with a knife and mix into the ground burger .The demo showed 1-2 lbs. of ground burger and maybe 3-4 TBLSPN of morrow . The morrow tends to melt into the patty as it cooks.
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First time read that someone put bone marrow into a burger
@denny I’m absolutely trying this, hopefully I will have time to try it this week but if not I will get to it next week, I’ll probably just push it out through the bone. Now, as good as a brisket burger is I can’t imagine not wanting to smoke a brisket! I am assuming with that yield you are selling them? You will have to let me know where I could pick some up if I am ever in Ohio again!
This sounds great, I’m going to defrost some bones and grab a point to grind, if you can believe it we don’t have a bandsaw…so i’ll have to get creative in freeing the marrow. I think I’m going to chunk the brisket and just grind the marrow right in with it. We’ll see how this goes!
@parksider The fact that you don’t have a bandsaw amazes me actually, you have just about everything else! I think you can just pop the marrow out if your bones are cut into smaller pieces like @denny said but I did see where at least one person broiled them first. I would think this would be fine if you were going to just use the marrow as a spread or something but since the goal here is to use it in a burger I don’t think that is the best thing.
We just don’t do many steak and we have 3 grinders…when all you own is a hammer everything looks like a nail! I’m going to try roasting some and I’ll make a steak butter for on top so it will melt in…lots of research to do!!
@Parksider Two things on steak for anyone interested. First if you have ever wanted to get into Sous Vide cooking then that is absolutely the way to go for steaks, if you have the time and inclination. The steaks are the most tender and perfectly cooked steaks you will ever get. If you don’t have access to a Sous Vide cooker then reverse sear them, in my mind it is much better than just straight on the grill, you get a pretty perfect cook throughout!
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For anyone interested here are some posts on Sous Vide:
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I often thought about both, grinding and making my own burgers from brisket and sou vide, now for sure I going for it and with the brisket burgers I will add the bone morrow, man that has to be so good!
I picked up brisket at the Kroger Chain grocery already for $1.99 a lb. on sale. Walmart has some very nice full brisket with the round for $3.94 a lb. I have checked several butcher shops and they normally stock packer 6 full briskets with the round on it to a box @ $4.99 to $5.99 per pound or most butcher shops would sell you a individual brisket. You did not have to buy a whole case.
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Weekly Blog Post - Octopus and Squid, Vacuum Packing
Find out what's going on at Walton's and Meatgistics this week. We will have a loose schedule for soon to be released videos, what we are working on long-term and maybe a few quick tips and tricks that are on our mind!What Videos are being released soon?
Depending on what you see as soon we will have the almost complete first round of Meatgistics University Classes released. We have broken everything down into these categories; Meat Processing Equipment, Seasoning and Additives, Fresh Sausage, Cured Sausage, Jerky, Sausage Casings, Deli Meats, Smoked Meats, Cured Whole Muscle Meats, and Specialty Sausages. Each of these topics will have multiple entry-level classes covering topics like the type of casing to use, equipment needed and a basic processing class where appropriate.What Projects are we looking ahead at?
We are going to be doing two new Will it BBQ’s, hopefully, this week where we try BBQ’ing Squid and Octopus! The squid was a suggestion by Bob Zambutto through Walton’s Inc Facebook account! I had been wanting to do both of these for a while and when I went to our local Asian Grocery Store (Tai Binh for anyone local to Wichita, KS) and they had lots of options for both, they have almost anything and I got a few more weird ideas while I was there! Anyway, I picked up some baby octopus and a full size one, some small squid and two large ones as well. I am excited and nervous to see how this goes if nothing else it should be fun to watch!What’s on our Mind?
Did you know that you shouldn’t vacuum pack Mushrooms or Garlic? I was reading a Vacmaster VP120 instruction manual the other day and I saw an interesting note that said not to vacuum pack Garlic or Mushrooms! I had no idea that you shouldn’t do this so I thought I would share that with meatgistics readers to let you know not to do it as well. Apparently, they both are prone to bacteria that will continue to grow in oxygen-free environments. I was hoping it was something more impressive than that but it is good information to have.New Products
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Thanks for the response!
I think a video on processed celery would be incredible. The only place I have been able to find celery powder as a cure was from “The Sausage Maker”, they have a Facebook page. It was expensive, designed only for sausages, and wasn’t packaged well.
As for the tackiness, good idea with the cornstarch! There are a bunch of big brands with zero additives that were able to achieve the soft texture with no tackiness, so I’m thinking it has to be in the processing. I read an article where someone at KRAVE mentioned a couple details about how they process their jerky. He said they first inject the meat, then cook the whole pieces, then slice, then marinate, then dry. I have messed around with the idea behind this process a lot. Injecting with brine, sous-viding at a variety of temperatures and times, slicing, marinating, and drying. Decent results, but to be honest the high sugar method you introduced to me has seemed to have better results.
Anyway, I will keep trying to figure this out and will definitely keep you guys posted if I make any headway. In the meantime, if there is anything else you think might be worth testing, please let me know! It would be great to try and perfect this process together.
@bob-s-meatgistics I moved one of my first pork butts into the oven and my whole house smelled like smoke. My wife did not stop complaining for a week until the smell was gone from both the house and the oven. I finish all my cooks outside. If you wrap it to speed up the cook you may want to unwrap it for the last hour to put the bark back on it.
@jonathon I am definitely going to purchase and follow the steps you’ve post, thank you sir! Additionally, if anyone has recipes, please share. I’ll try them all and post what my family thought of each. Thank you all, this is a very cool and educational blog, glad I found it wish it was years ago! Thanks again.