pepperoni unit with a little ghost pepper cheese?


  • Regular Contributors

    I’m going to make some pepperoni sticks in a few days and was wondering if anyone has added ghost pepper high temp.cheese to the excalibur product. My wife thinks not . I’m talking 1/2 lb to 10lbs meat.
    But we like it hotter than most people but it might not flavor it correctly.???


  • Walton's Employee

    @tarp First, I think you are wise to go with the 1/2 to 10 lb ratio if you haven’t tried that cheese yet it is extremely hot! Very good tasting but it is nothing at all like our Hot Pepper cheese which tastes more like pepper jack, this stuff deserves its name in my opinion.

    As for the flavor, I think they will match up fairly well. That might change if you use encapsulated citric acid, I can see the tang from the acid maybe not going so well with the Ghost Pepper Cheese. However, I also like adding Citric Acid when I make Habanero Lime snack stick so tang and heat aren’t necessarily a bad match, just something to think about!


  • Regular Contributors

    MMMMMM I was going to add Citric acid so maybe I’ll adjust and maybe do half one way.
    Thanks for info.Tarp.


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    I do it all the time. Still remember my mom saying it’s not a good idea. I’m sure if you are buying a nice steak and intend it eat it as a grilled T-bone you might notice some flesh cell break down (texture change). If you are going to use it in sausage you will not notice any difference. Made brats last night. Once frozen pork and elk. Refroze the brats. I do it time and time again.

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    Here is a link to a website that has a handy Excel spreadsheet. It is, as it says a free non-commercial site.
    As for Waltons dropping the ball, I vote they are doing a great job.
    I think for all of us there are general guidelines, but unless you have a temperature and humidity controlled environment, both for the preparation, cooking (if you cook them) smoking, hanging etc, the results are bound to vary from batch to batch.
    Personally, I am searching how to get my home made smoked and dry cured pepperoni to the exact texture and firmness of Margarita pepperoni from the store.
    Through trial and error I have the flavor where I want it, but not the texture or firmness. I know time, temperature and humidity are all crucial, but the best I can do is in the basement and then subject to the environment that is there.
    I figure as long as I am not killing anyone or making anyone sick I am making progress. Thanks Waltons for all of the great information so far.
    Having said that, it would be nice to have your chart in an Excel spreadsheet.

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    @jonathon

    Thanks Jonathon! One question tho! You eluded to 178 being high for a temp! Don’t you guys recommend setting the temp at 175 during the final stage to completion to internal temp? Three degrees shouldn’t make that much difference should it??

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    @lamurscrappy

    Sounds reasonable. Thanks for your input. Pulling the meat at 152 will make a big difference I bet! Thanks again.

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  • @Kinger Thanks for the information. Your process, other than going to 178, is on in my mind. The only thing I do differently is an ice bath for 20 minutes. Showering for 10 minutes, if you are running a cycle and a fan in your smoker can work, but I still think an ice bath would bring it down faster and more. Last time I did thick summer sausage it was down to 110 in 20 minutes, I also tried showering it at 2 minutes on 2 minutes off for 20 minutes and it was only down to 136 (ish) but i did not have a fan running on them.

    One more thing you might want to try, if you are stalled towards the end you can finish them up by putting them in a vacuum bag (I have done then hot, right from the smoker, some condensation in the bag but it still gets a good vac) and get some water going at around 165, it should get up to temp in under an hour depending on the thickness.

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