Cenison sticks to salty?
I have been experimenting doing 20 lb batches of venison meat sticks useing Morton tenderquick. The flavor is great just a little salty. I’m useing the recommendation of 1 tablespoon of TQ per pound. Does this seem to much?
@lt205 What is the rest of your recipe? Are you using a premeasured seasoning packet, or a homemade seasoning mixture?
Home made leaning towards a pepperoni flavor.
@lt205 I can’t really comment too much on a homemade recipe as it could be one of many factors, the most obvious one being too much salt or TQ. I would try backing them down in steps. I can say that 1 tablespoon to 20 lb of meat does NOT sound like too much to me if anything it seems slightly less than I would recommend if you were using sure cure. Now, we don’t seel Tender Quick and I don’t use it so I could be wrong there?
Also, you mean Venison Sticks right? I had never heard of Cenison sticks but I know I don’t know every type of sausage out there!
@jonathon Yes it is venison sticks. Thanks for for reply I may try the pink meat cure next batch.
Try 6oz of TQ per 20# of meat. We use 10# pork and 10 venison. We backed this down from the original recipe. We eat a lot less salt now so adjust it as needed.
@lt205 Thanks I will give it a try.
@stan 'll echo the statements of others. Using your meat grinder to stuff can be labor intensive and slow going. An extra set of hands is almost required.
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@raider2119 I’ve never used apple cider either. It might well work but I would think spraying it from a spritzer bottle occasionally onto your meat would be more effective.
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@Douglas-Moore If you used duck did you cook up to 165°? If you are using ground poultry you should be cooking to 165 instead of 160° if you are using beef/pork. Another idea is when did you mix in the pork fat? When adding pork fat the best time to add it is during the grinding process if you are mixing it in after the grinding you run the risk of having the fat encapsulate the proteins and make it difficult for everything to bind together properly.
Last thought would be to add a binder like Sure Gel or Soy Protein Blend that will add some protein to your product and make protein extraction easier. If you are looking to firm it up more I don’t know that Carrot Fiber would be the best choice.
Just an FYI, everybody that received snack sticks for Christmas last year loved them… I just ordered another batch of Willie’s Snack Stick spice blend to do it again this year!
Jonathon, I have to agree that 275 is too hot… If you have the time I’d shoot for 225, but if it needs to be “done”, then 250 would be the max I would do…
I have always filled the water pan for everything I smoke… 2 reasons, first it does tend to add moisture during the long cook thus keeping the bark from turning to shoe leather… and second because the water pan acts as a heat sink and helps maintain the temperature (in my vertical propane smoker) a bit more accurately… I’ve heard folks tout using apple juice in the water pan to impart a sweeter flavor, but I’ve never tried it…
On the other hand, my dad smoked for years, mostly in a converted fridge with an electric hotplate in the bottom… he never used a water pan and never had an issue with dry meat…
As for the type of wood to use, that’s just a trial and error, personal preference thing… I happen to like steaks cooked with oak… that may be too strong a flavor for your taste (my GF hates it)… Recently I have been using a lot of maple for NC bbq, chicken and even cheese… I like the maple for the meats, but next batch of cheese will go back to the hickory / cherry mix that I was using…