Venison Ham instructions Request
wvhunter1965 last edited by
Re: venison ham???
Please make this a project
Sounds like this may be a project that should be addressed. I think many people would be interested and it might save someone from ruining their venison by doing so incorrectly.
I would assume that this would have some different requirements than pork considering the vast difference in fat content.
BevH last edited by
I do venison hams. I use a curing brine, 3 lbs of curing salt per gallon of water. I brine in that overnight (8-12 hours) then, inject half of that brine into the deer ham.
I use Walton’s brown sugar cure to coat the outside of the ham until it’s about 1/2 to 3/4 inch thick initially. Have plenty of cure on hand, you’ll need more every other day. I pit the ham on a draining rack inside a plastic box with a lid and, refrigerate it. I check it, drain off the water and, add more cure if I see any bare spots. Being venison, I leave it 15 days in the refrigerator and, at the start of day 16, I rinse the cure off, then soak the ham in reconstituted powdered milk for one hour before wrapping and freezing it, or cooking it.
If you like saltier ham, skip the milk soak. I like it a bit less salty.
Namrats last edited by
What size of ham (Lbs) do you make hams with? Thanks for sharing you method, I have been thinking about how to do this for some time, as I want to turn the hams into Sausage that can be smoked …hoping to generate a Sausage with more of a old world flair to it. You brought me me one step closer, Thanks!
OK, I calculated ± 2.04 cups or 32.76 tablespoons of Walton’s Turkey Cure for a 10% pump to equal 1.29 pounds of cure. I hope that is right. If anyone has anything known to be more accurate (other than weighing) or scientific, please let me know. Thanks
I would suggest following the same guidelines for a traditional ham as with a venison ham.
Check out our normal ham recipe here:
I will see if we can do some research into what may be helpful to do different with venison as opposed to pork in this specific use case though.
wvhunter1965 last edited by
@austin, thanks for the info. Also, thanks to the members for the info they provided.
I am considering trying the venison and following the recipe for pork as suggested.
Will let you know how it turns out!
@papasop I have a response from the manufacturer…
They said that they designed the mixer in a way that it would not need to run in reverse for a long time. It should mix efficiently enough in one direction and it was designed to mix in just 1 direction. So, using the grinder in any scenario (grinding or mixing) you should limit the reverse time to approximately 5 seconds at one time.
My own opinion on the mixing is that I wouldn’t mix in just 1 direction though. I think there is still a benefit to going in reverse, even if temporarily, so I think my course of action for the future will probably be to mix 90% of the time in 1 direction, but still do the reverse in the 5 second interval. Probably something like 30 to 60 seconds forward, 5 seconds backward, then another 30 to 60 forward, etc… I think that would get enough benefit of a direction mix cycle, but still limit the reverse action as much as possible.
@jonathon Moscow Mules!! I’m sold. Will It BBQ is on the way soon for sure!
@alan Lol, I’m an idiot, just the other day I said that I am fully capable of thinking one thing and typing something else! Getting information from an old timer is usually a great way to go! Glad you got it worked out though! Send pictures of them!
@Danbow Back when I was in customer service I know I talked to someone who either said his wife did it exactly how you are explaining it or I talked to the woman who did it, I wonder if I was talking to either you or your wife?!
Wrapping it in foil would keep more moisture in the product, same basic process that some people do when they are smoking ribs. I can absolutely see how this would work and I think the way she is doing it, without a casing, would be more effective when wrapping it in foil. I don’t think you’ll ever convert me from using a casing but we might be making some updates here and when we do I might have access to an oven and will give this a try!
Lol, no rice in Andoullie. You are thinking of Boudin.
I spoke to an Old Timer Cajun down here and he said, after you cure your meat for 24 hours, spray and moisten the meat just before stuffing it. If the stuffing is too dry, the meat will shrink when smoked and it will make voids between the stuffing and casing.
The recipe I use is hundred plus years ago and I added some modern safeguards and seasonings. By the way, I use Boston Butt & Cushion Meat, in lieu of the hogs head and neck.
The Smoke Houses are selling it for over $10 a pound here and I can make it for $1.30.
LaPlace, LA is, The Andoullie Capital of the World!
@jonathon Thank you for your quick and detailed response. It is greatly appreciated. Just another reason why Walton’s is the best. For some reason, I thought that you needed to soak the collagen before loading it on the stuffing horn. Thanks for the correction there.