typical ratio of pork to venison? FROZEN not smoked sausage recipes only here.
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Just wondering what most folks use when making breakfast sausage using venison, what is the range of pork % that could be considered “normal”?
What ratio would be typical of italian sausage, chorizo?
I made some with 50% pork/ venison and found it too taste just fine. It’s original recipe called for only 25% pork and I found that too firm, dry and cooked up like a hockey puck and likely to char during frying. What is most typical ratio amount for pork in breakfast sausage made from venison / pork?
@schreib If you can find straight pork fat then 25% is okay but if you are using untrimmed porks butts then you should up that a little. That’s an important note, not all pork butts you get at the store will be untrimmed, one of the main reasons we recommend pork butts is that it has a nice fat cap on it, if that’s been trimmed off then you need to go closer to 50/50. I’d recommend that for Summer Sausage, Snack Sticks. Breakfast Sausage or Bratwursts.
For Chorizo you want it fattier if you are going to make a traditional Mexican Chorizo, probably somewhere in the 50/50 range of lean to fat. I make my chorizo in a casing and eat them like a normal sausage so 70/30 ish is okay but if you want to add it to other dishes then you need a higher fat content.
We do a lot of different sausages and find using pork butts are very easy to find, i always get the ones with the largest fat caps on them. We mix 50/50, our original recipe for snack sticks was 60/40 venison to pork, but no one likes to do that math, so 50/50 is how we’ve been making it for a long time and everyone loves it so we use that ratio for everything. We make a lot of different sausages at one time so it’s just easier to know we have a standard. Not sure where you’re at but we have a Restaurant Depot in town that sells 2-butt packs and discounts it if you buy more than 50# at one time. They have very good product and great price.
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thanks. As it turned out I did use a pork butt, cost only $1.48/# on sale and pork fat appears to be running about 50 cents more. Pure fat is a lot harder to come by, guessing because there is just less of it – supply and demand. One recipe I was using called out pork fat and I directly substituted the ground pork butt and it tasted fine even at a 25% ratio. The other sausage experimental batch I made with 50% and it is even better. So, 50/50 is the future now. thanks for your input folks!
@papasop I have a response from the manufacturer…
They said that they designed the mixer in a way that it would not need to run in reverse for a long time. It should mix efficiently enough in one direction and it was designed to mix in just 1 direction. So, using the grinder in any scenario (grinding or mixing) you should limit the reverse time to approximately 5 seconds at one time.
My own opinion on the mixing is that I wouldn’t mix in just 1 direction though. I think there is still a benefit to going in reverse, even if temporarily, so I think my course of action for the future will probably be to mix 90% of the time in 1 direction, but still do the reverse in the 5 second interval. Probably something like 30 to 60 seconds forward, 5 seconds backward, then another 30 to 60 forward, etc… I think that would get enough benefit of a direction mix cycle, but still limit the reverse action as much as possible.
@jonathon Moscow Mules!! I’m sold. Will It BBQ is on the way soon for sure!
@alan Lol, I’m an idiot, just the other day I said that I am fully capable of thinking one thing and typing something else! Getting information from an old timer is usually a great way to go! Glad you got it worked out though! Send pictures of them!
@Danbow Back when I was in customer service I know I talked to someone who either said his wife did it exactly how you are explaining it or I talked to the woman who did it, I wonder if I was talking to either you or your wife?!
Wrapping it in foil would keep more moisture in the product, same basic process that some people do when they are smoking ribs. I can absolutely see how this would work and I think the way she is doing it, without a casing, would be more effective when wrapping it in foil. I don’t think you’ll ever convert me from using a casing but we might be making some updates here and when we do I might have access to an oven and will give this a try!
Lol, no rice in Andoullie. You are thinking of Boudin.
I spoke to an Old Timer Cajun down here and he said, after you cure your meat for 24 hours, spray and moisten the meat just before stuffing it. If the stuffing is too dry, the meat will shrink when smoked and it will make voids between the stuffing and casing.
The recipe I use is hundred plus years ago and I added some modern safeguards and seasonings. By the way, I use Boston Butt & Cushion Meat, in lieu of the hogs head and neck.
The Smoke Houses are selling it for over $10 a pound here and I can make it for $1.30.
LaPlace, LA is, The Andoullie Capital of the World!
@jonathon Thank you for your quick and detailed response. It is greatly appreciated. Just another reason why Walton’s is the best. For some reason, I thought that you needed to soak the collagen before loading it on the stuffing horn. Thanks for the correction there.