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I have a question about my left over seasonings, once opened how long will they be good for? I have a vacuum packer so I can reseal them and should they be refrigerated? The seasonings in question are the jalapeño and cheddar cheese summer sausage blend. I noticed on my second time making the sausage that the texture was different ( not as good as my first time ) making it, does this come from over mixing or under mixing
@scott-williams What was wrong with the texture? Was it too coarse or too smooth, almost like a hot dog? Under mixing it will normally cause 2 issues.
First, the fat, meat , additives and water will not bind and if you are smoking them at lower temperatures for long periods of time the fat will render out of the meat and you will end up with a dry product. If you overmixed it (it is possible) you can end up with an odd texture as well, sort of seems rubbery if this happened.
I’m not sure about your seasoning as it doesn’t sound like one we carry, or maybe you meant the Jalapeno Seasoning and you added Hi-Temp Cheese? For Excaliburs, you could reseal it (vacuum packer is ideal) and store it in a cool dry place like a pantry and get another year out it. This is assuming that it was not introduced to a lot of moisture when you opened it previously.
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Jonathon it is jalapeno seasoning and added Hi temp cheese. I only made a half batch of sausage this time
because a full batch is hard to mix in my mixer. I will vacuum pack the rest of my seasoning and store it in the pantry. As far as the texture goes it seemed to be a little dry, not as appealing to the tongue, when I made the sausage I used 10lbs of venison 2.5lbs of pork fat and I cut all of the seasonings in half using tablespoon and 1/4cup measurements and 1 quart of water, when I smoked the sausage I started 120deg. For 1 hour 145deg. For 1 hour 175 deg. For 2 hours and then 190deg. Until temperature got to 160deg. The only thing I changed is I added a little more cheese than before, not sure what I did but it is different. Any other idea’s. Thanks for your help.
@scott-williams First, I’d recommend you use a binder like Sure Gel or Super Bind or a moisture retender like Carrot Fiber. This is always the first thing I recommend when someone has an issue with the texture of their sausage.
Your fat content is correct and it sounds like you used the correct amount of seasoning. 190° is a little higher than I would recommend, but we have all been there when it’s just taking too long so you dump it a little more than you really should! I don’t think that is the issue but check out this post titled Summer Sausage Nightmare specifically @Parksider’s response to finishing it up in water. It’s a good tip and I am going to be doing some tests on it here to verify a few things.
What I think probably caused your issue was the mixing in some way. When adding pork fat to your venison I think the best time to add it is during the second grind, it’s possible that your fat didn’t really mix in well with the venison, that would explain why it seemed dry even though you had the correct fat content.
It also could have been lack of protein extraction, I looked through your posts and can’t tell if you have a mixer or are mixing by hand? With cured sausages, I always recommend using a meat mixer as getting the right level of protein extraction. I am guessing that you had some fat out where the fat renders and cooks out of the product.
Hope this helps!
@Jonathon great advice, keep it simple
Big John's Pizza Dough Recipe
Learn how to make Big John's Pizza Dough Recipe with Walton's and Meatgistics. Watch the video, read the guide, and then post your questions or comments below.Ingredients
During one of our recent livestreams, Big John offered to give us a great pizza dough recipe. He claimed it would give me a leg up on Austin when we eventually do our pizza competition. Well, I wanted to try it so I made some pepperoni here while I was propping open the door to try to get the temp to hold at 120° and then I finished them up in our sous vide cooker.
So his recipe called for 4 cups of King Arthur all-purpose flour but I decided to use the one specifically for pizza crusts, 2 packs of dry yeast, not the rapid rise kind, 2 tablespoons of sugar, 1 teaspoon of salt and 1/4 cup of olive oil.Steps for Dough
Take the 2 packs of yeast and mix with 1-1/2 cups of warm water. Then mix the rest of the ingredients in an oiled bowl, make sure everything is nice and mixed in and then transfer to a clean oiled bowl, cover with some plastic wrap and let it sit for an hour. Then put it in the fridge overnight.
Then the next day make another batch and mix them together, this was a tip from him that really seems to work out well! Then you can split them into batches and you can freeze them for up to 3 months but just know that he says the longer you leave them in the freezer they will not be as good!Cooking Directions
Now, we are using a pizza stone so we are warming it up for an hour at 500°. I like to form the dough into a circle, now I am not perfect at this so it is more of a circle like shape than a true circle and then put it on the stone for 1-2 minutes to firm it up a little more. This will make adding the topping a lot better in my mind.
Now add your sauce, cheese, and any other toppings. I like to sprinkle some Garlic Romano Wing Sauce onto mine while it cooks, it is very good on pizza. We have cut our pepperoni pretty thin and we will put a good amount of that on top of the cheese.
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